no poll, just a good read on two of the roads highest performing street machines.
http://www.insideline.com/bugatti/ve…s-1000-rr.html
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First a few numbers. Oh, and then there are the price tags: $1.3 million for the Bugatti, a mere $14,295 for the BMW. But at this moment, we’re not worried about the numbers. All we can think about is the French supercar sitting behind us, buzzing like an impertinent bluebottle fly in the mirrors of the 2010 BMW S 1000 RR. And now it behooves us to unleash the BMW’s inner demon and show this, this insect of a 2010 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 the true, grand order of nature. That bikes are faster than cars. Molsheim Fury Yes, a handful of exotic cars constructed at bewildering expense from space-age composites and fueled by the sweat of virgins will give a modern sport bike a run on the track, but only for about as long as it takes the millionaire’s four-wheel toy to melt its brakes, vaporize its gearbox and delaminate its tires. But on the road, with oncoming traffic, bumps, blind corners and suicidal camber? Yes, the motorcycle is king and the rider is god. Always has been, always will be. So we lean into the BMW S 1000 RR, drop a gear and pin the throttle. See…you…later. Transformers It’s to be expected, because this is no ordinary motorcycle. The combination of 190 hp at 13,200 rpm from the BMW’s 999cc DOHC inline-4 and MotoGP-style electronic stability control have changed the expectations of what’s possible with two wheels and a headlight. Of course, the car in our mirrors is no ordinary car. The Bugatti Veyron 16.4 is finally reaching the end of its production run after 295 examples of the French-built (though Volkswagen-owned) supercar have been built since 2005. Even the most car-phobic motorcyclist knows about the quad-turbo 8.0-liter Bugatti W16 engine and its ability to deliver 1,001 hp and a top speed of 253 mph (a Veyron 16.4 Super Sport with its 1,183-hp engine recently set a top-speed mark of 268 mph). In fact, this particular Bugatti Veyron 16.4 isn’t being driven by a retired bus driver who has won the lottery but instead Pierre-Henri Raphanel, Bugatti’s test-driver and a well-known shoe at the 24 Hours of Le Mans. (We wish we could afford his jet-set tan.) Learning To Understand the Automobile So as we flash down the road under a forest ceiling of green and blue, fighting the S 1000 RR as it wheelies and squirms under the argument those 190hp are having with the pavement through a contact patch the same size as a Labrador retriever’s nose, we see the Bugatti still in our mirrors. If the Veyron had the same ratio of power-to-tire-contact-patch as the BMW, it would be delivering its stupendous power through only one of its massive rear tires. So while we’re desperately trying to get the BMW upright and pointing between the trees so we can unload the engine’s 83 lb-ft of torque at 9,750 rpm through the bike’s 190/55ZR17 Metzeler Racetec rear tire, the Bugatti shooms around corners behind us, no sign of it even causing Raphanel a moment of sweat. The Bugatti is indefatigable, inexhaustible and irrepressible. Performance Profiles In perfect conditions, BMW says the 455-pound S 1000 RR will get to 60 mph from a standstill in 3.0 seconds on the way to the quarter-mile in 10.2 seconds. You’ll find that 100 mph comes up in 5.3 seconds while the speed is all over at 191 mph. Sure, bikes like the BMW K1300S and Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa might get to 60 mph quicker, but no street bike is faster in a straight line than the BMW S 1000 RR. Matched against this, the 4,410-pound Veyron 16.4 puts its turbocharged W16 to good use with a quick-shifting, dual-clutch seven-speed automated manual transmission plus all-wheel drive, so it gets to 60 mph from a standstill in the same breathtaking 3.0 seconds and finds the quarter-mile in 10.2 seconds. The 100 mph mark is reached in 5.5 seconds and of course the car doesn’t run out of steam until you get to 253 mph. So in a straight line the car and bike are neck and neck off the start and up to around 140 mph, after which the Bugatti clears off into some netherworld of top speed where not even MotoGP bikes dare venture. Breaking Free Pierre-Henri has yet to lose a Veyron to the scenery despite crossing off more than 3,000 test-drives and he isn’t about to start now. The Bugatti has the best brakes in the world — 15.7-inch carbon-ceramic discs with eight-piston calipers at the front, not to mention a rear wing that turns into an airbrake in 0.4s and which generates more braking force on its own than a family hatchback does with its driver standing on the pedal. It all means the Veyron will stop from 250 mph in less than 10 seconds.:eek: But despite this, you can still crash into things and the Veyron won’t magically narrow itself to the width of a sport bike to let Raphanel slip past cars against oncoming traffic. So the car is the loser. Let’s Be Practical Then we stop for gasoline and the million-dollar Veyron is forced to drink from the same cup as the rest of us. In normal use it gets over 20 mpg, but this drops to below 5 mpg at full tilt. The best the BMW has done in our hands is 54 mpg; the worst, at a racetrack, is 25 mpg. The Bugatti drinks 26.4 gallons of unleaded and the Beemer takes 4.5 gallons. The motorcycle also wins the competition when it comes to maintenance costs — changing tires, anyway. There are only two tire-changing machines in the world capable of removing the Veyron’s epically proportioned 265/680R20 front and 365/710R21 rear Michelin Pilot Sport Pax run-flat tires. One is here at Molsheim; the other is in the U.S.. It costs $90,000 — no, really — to change four tires. And if you want to know what it costs to service the Veyron or change a windshield, don’t ask. Practical Magic Sure, the Bugatti might be able to live with the 2010 BMW S 1000 RR on a twisty road and even waste it on a straight one, but it never works out like that in the real world. One you chuck in traffic, road construction, speed bumps, curbs and even the length of gas stops, there’s no way in which our bike can’t beat his car. And here’s the thing. With a motorcycle, we get our performance kicks every morning on the way to work. And you, whoever you are in Veyron world, we bet you don’t. As we pack up at the end of the day and strap our luggage rack to the back of the BMW, we realize that the S 1000 RR even has more storage capacity than the Veyron 16.4. Ha! Bike wins again. Who’d have thought it? |
both of these are very impressive,… and i didn’t think any car could keep up with a bike on the road.
0-300-0 km/h comparison in Papenburg:
Plus in the double issue:
Pictures from the test:
Stock cars:
20,7 s – Bugatti 16.4 Veyron (Handling-mode, no High Speed-Key)
28,6 s – Porsche 911 GT2 RS (7,6 s faster than the 997 GT2)
32,3 s – Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera (458 Italia: 32,4 s)
35,4 s – Corvette ZR1 (lines up with MotorTrend’s 35,5 s time)
42,2 s – Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG (loses power at higher speeds)
50,6 s – Lexus LFA (no comment…)
54,3 s (to 280 km/h) – BMW M3 GTS (It won’t do 300 km/h…)
Tuned cars:
17,3 s – 9ff BT1000 AWD
33,5 s – MTM-Audi RS6 Clubsport (last year’s Avant did it in 35,5 seconds)
36,0 s – Importracing-Nissan GT-R
41,7 s – Väth-V60 RS (tuned SL63 AMG)
51,9 s – Wimmer-C63 AMG
54,4 s (to 270 km/h) – AC Schnitzer X6
all cars tested:
Bugatti Veyron (1001PS)
Porsche GT2 RS (620PS)
Mercedes SLS (571PS)
Corvette ZR1 (647PS)
Lexus LF-A (560PS)
BMW M3 GTS (450PS)
Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera (570PS)
Bentley Continetal Speed Convertible (610PS)
Tuners
9ff BT1000 4WD (1000PS)
Hohnester HS 650RR (Audi A4)(650PS)
MTM RS6 Clubsport (740PS)
Importracing Nissan GT-R (560PS)
Väth V60RS (655PS)
Wimmer C63 AMG (565PS)
Speedart Panamera (550PS)
AC Schnitzer ACS6 (650PS)
R8 V8 R-tronic
0-100km/h – 4,3s
0-200km/h – 15,9s
100-0km/h (warm) – 34,0m
track – 1:39,4
TT RS S-tronic
0-100km/h – 4,4s
0-200km/h – 17,4s
100-0km/h (warm) – 33,7m
track – 1:41,8
RS5
0-100km/h – 4,5s
0-200km/h – 15,9s
100-0km/h (warm) – 33,8m
track – 1:42,8
Scans :
+ Some more interesting results from the issue (short tests)
Alpina B3 S Biturbo touring
0-100km/h – 4,5s
0-200km/h – 15,6s
fuel cons. – 11,3l/100km (only)
MB S63 AMG (571hp/900Nm version)
0-100km/h – 4,5s
0-200km/h – 13,7s (almost 3s less than old S63, on S65 level)
fuel cons. – 13,1l/100km (2l less than old S63)
Cayenne diesel
fuel cons. – 9,0l/100km (only 2l more than new 520d despite added power,weight,drag and AWD)
1st place – Cargraphic 911 GT3 RSC 3.8 – The tuned GT3′s engine produced 474 hp, 39 hp more than the stock one. The gearratios are shortened for the track-use, that’s why its topspeed is "only" 293 km/h (per GPS). The acceleration is the best out of the trio: 0-200 km/h in just 12,7 seconds. Braking performance is brutal, even if the car’s equipped with the standard brakes (no PCCB). The Sachsenring tracktime of 1:34,69 min is just 0,06 seconds faster than the stock 911 GT3 RS’ time. Handling and cornering is on RS-level.
2nd place – Geiger Corvette Grand Sport Kompressor – Corvette Grand Sport with a supercharger, ZR1-wheels and rear-spoiler. Sounds good, isn’t? Actually it’s not that good… The engine now produces 550 hp (38 more than a Z06) and 653 Nm of torque, and that’s too much for the 335 mm-wide rear tyres. The car hit 100 km/h in 4,5 seconds (0,5 seconds slower than a Z06 and a whole second slower than the mighty ZR1). The topspeed is impressive however: with its shortened 5th gear the testcar reached 325 km/h. Braking performance? From 200 km/h 157,8 metres – that’s unacceptable from a supercar like this.
3rd place – MTM R8 GT3-2 R-tronic - The most interesting car in the test. The engine: V8 with supercharger, which produces 560 hp and 580 Nm. Straightline performance: the Launch Control is hard on the clutch (only 3 launches are allowed, than you have to wait ’til it cools down), 0-100 km/h is 4,3 s (same as the standard R8 with R-tronic). Topspeed is 295 km/h – with the original bodykit 317 km/h is possible. Handling: the testcar was a pre-production one, as they say: "it isn’t brilliant yet, but quite a fun to drive". On the Sachsenring the car was 0.9 seconds faster than the R8 V10 R-tronic. And it will be faster…
Scans:
In the next issue: Geiger-Corvette ZR1 (692 hp) vs. TechArt-911 Turbo PDK (620 hp).
1st place – BMW M3 DKG Competition Package
2nd place – Alpina B3 Biturbo
3rd place – Audi RS5
4th place – Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance Package Plus
Hockenheimring-times (2,6 km)
Since Jochen Übler (former Sport Auto-author) is working with AMS, the HHR-times are comparable with the Sport Auto-times.
Verdict
The way the M3′s suspension mixes comfort and agility is "sensational". It’s highrevving V8 and 7-speed-double cluth gearbox is perfect. Handling in TOP. First place for the BMW.
Second place goes to the Alpina, the perfect Gran Turismo. The 3,0-litre, biturbo engine is very flexible, but the handling is not that sporty as the M3′s.
The Audi RS5 is the most expensive out of this quartet and despite its good ranking on the ‘Dynamic-rating’ it finished on 3rd place. Traction is best.
Last place goes to the C63 AMG with 30-more-hp. It’s kinda funny that the Merc’s suspension is the most uncomfortable out of this four… And despite it’s so hard, the handling is not that good as it should be, the car is not well-balanced. The V8′s power is brutal however. Best 0-200 km/h time.
Scans
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would you buy a new 370Z? or 350Z or 300ZX and why?
458 blitzes rivals
"The Ferrari is practically as fast as the Noble, as thrilling as the Porsche and as dramatic as the Lexus – and it is the most usable of the lot. The new Ferrari is without a doubt the new supercar benchmark."
Ferrari 458 Italia
0-60mph – 3,3s
0-100mph – 7,0s
0-150mph – 16,2s
Lexus LFA
0-60mph – 4,2s
0-100mph – 8,2s
0-150mph – 18,9s
Noble M600
0-60mph – 3,5s
0-100mph – 6,8s
0-150mph – 14,0s
Porsche 911 GT3 RS
0-60mph – 3,9s
0-100mph – 8,4s
0-150mph – 20,1s
BMW M3 GTS
Porsche 911 GT3 RS
Article & picture gallery - http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-m…=20&now=10#mmg